# The Programmers I Look Up The Most


edw519
- his 2 computer philosophy. one with internet: to browse, the other without internet: to code
- master of cobol
- uses own library of code functions that he often pulls from
- gtd - only 1 item on the list. do it until its done

derek sivers
- doesn't even use git. just scp's the code to backup servers!
- uses ruby, but not rails. uses sinatra for the web framework
- has been using postgresql for over 25 years
- uses postgres functions and triggers, and uses programming languages as an intermediary to accept and respond to http requests
- rich hickey simplicity talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI8tNMsozo0 changed everything for Derek. been trying to simplify things forever
- predominantly used ruby and sql. now tries golang and python, but has forever to swear allegiance to sql and postgresql

pieter levels
- mastered php and jquery to the highest level
- ditches complexity. no frameworks, not even laravel because 'it takes time to learn'
- says the site https://youmightnotneedjquery.com/ is the best marketing for jquery lol
- uses sqlite for db!
- gtd - used trello 

ralf christian
- seo expert 
- does things with bash, php, golang
- linux master

lessons learned
- trust your gut more than the market and experts
- laugh in the face of fomo
- u can do a lot more with the tools u already learned. don't let others tell u otherwise